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Mina

I'm really worried about Mina. She seemed fine when I came home today but now she is showing evidence of hind-end lameness. She seems uncomfortable and she cannot jump on the bed. When I put her on the bed, she immediately wanted to get down and she collapsed on her hind end when she tried. She also had some difficulty pooping, so I'm not sure if it's a digestive issue or a rear-leg/hip issue. Her back is hunched, which even when she's had front-leg limping and pain, has never happened.

ETA: Her rear muscles in for sure her right rear leg are all twitchy. Both rear legs are trembling. Her tail is almost tucked but not quite. She cannot seem to find a position that is comfortable, getting up and down, moving around.

ETA2: I tried massaging the right rear leg. I can't tell if it's swollen or what. It doesn't feel hot. Mina didn't really like it when I massaged it, which is unusual. I really wish she was more open with her pain behaviors; the only hint I get that she's in pain is she stills when I massage her leg and she doesn't relax her head like when I usually massage. She's also super restless. I've had muscle spasms before and they're both painful and annoying. I'm hoping she just pulled a muscle or something and that's the problem.

I hate this.

ETA 3: Muscle spasms gone after some intense massaging with some lavender essential oil and lotion. We'll see how she feels in the morning. Definitely going to have to invest in a ramp.

What do you folks do for older dogs with muscle/joint weakness? Any supplements other than glucosamine, et. al.?

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polyphonicvegan
Aug. 17th, 2009 04:07 am (UTC)
I hope Miss Mina feels better in the morning. Good luck! Hugs for all!!!!!
polyphonicvegan
Aug. 17th, 2009 04:09 am (UTC)
Re: ETA

What do you think that means? If you want to call me, go for it. I can also make a late night visit (with cookies) if you need company.
rinalia
Aug. 17th, 2009 04:17 am (UTC)
I was googling it and I think it might be a muscle spasm. She's starting to show signs of arthritis and general weakness in the legs. I think I need to buy her a ramp for the bed as I think that might be the cause of her woes.

I'm going to massage her leg and just hang with her until she is more comfortable. She keeps lying down on my side of the bed which is a little unusual for her.

You are such an awesome friend, seriously. I think we'll be fine; it's not an emergency, it was just one of those moments when I was painfully reminded that she is nearly 11 and, shit, she doesn't have forever. And mainly it's seeing her in distress that's so hard - she's a seriously stoic dog and her "distress" is just general restlessness, heavy sighs and looking pathetic. Sometimes I just wish she'd let out a big whimper and then bite me when I palpate her leg. (It's what Celeste would do, heh).

Blergh.
polyphonicvegan
Aug. 17th, 2009 04:24 am (UTC)
Serious sympathy in the muscle spasm department. There are few things suckier, other than being on the other end and having to witness the distress. I'm here for you and the girls anytime. Do you need some Barack-y-road? ;)

rinalia
Aug. 17th, 2009 04:48 am (UTC)
Thanks. I get muscle spasms in my feet and legs relatively frequently and they SUCK majorly.

After some deep tissue massage (or what I imagine would be deep tissue massage, heh) the twitching has stopped. It's probably still sore if it's similar to human muscle spasms that are prolonged.

I really should have taken some Barack-y-road home with me! Instead I'm staying up WAAAAAY past my bed-time and reading a book about sex and science. :)
polyphonicvegan
Aug. 17th, 2009 04:58 am (UTC)
Doh! I was going to offer to send you home with some but I couldn't think of a way to get it there semi-solid. And now, of course, I remember the padded lunch bags in my freezer. I will be making more vegan ice cream this week (cherrrrrrrry!), so you can take some home on Friday/Saturday morning*.

*You're staying over, right?

What book are you reading? I like the subject very much. *is a dork*
rinalia
Aug. 17th, 2009 05:11 am (UTC)
Since I shall be imbibing alcohol up the wazoo, yes I'd like to stay over. :)

The book is called Bonk by Mary Roach. I've read her first two books. I love her sense of humor but there's a lot of animal research shit in the first two books that are just DISTURBING. There appears to be a lot less of that in this one. Yay.
surlynymph
Aug. 17th, 2009 04:48 am (UTC)
My thoughts are with you and Mina. I am sure it's just muscle spasms/arthritis. My families chow chow Chye has arthritis and she acts similarly.
rinalia
Aug. 17th, 2009 05:12 am (UTC)
Thanks, I agree that it's probably muscle spasms. They're all gone now and Mina is sleeping.

Poor Chye, it does not seem like an enjoyable thing to endure.
dragonvyxn
Aug. 17th, 2009 07:23 am (UTC)
we go to the chiropractor. lila (my pyr) has bad hips... i take her in to get adjusted and she always feels better and moves better, baya (my gsd) had those slung back hip, and now she stands more squarely. it's actually very cool... i do fish oils and glcyflex. lots of fish oils. you can also give her some probiotics to help her digestion if it's causing her pain...

hope she feels better...
dragonvyxn
Aug. 17th, 2009 10:42 pm (UTC)
that should have read glycoflex. my typing is teh crap... happy to hear your vets are skilled in chiro/acupunture, yay! can't wait to hear your update... :-)
pixidoxical
Aug. 17th, 2009 07:43 am (UTC)
K is starting to get stiff in her hind legs too; onset of arthritis. :( She turned 11 on 4 July.

I pretty much did exactly what you already mentioned, plus upped her calcium intake a little. It seemed to help, and she still demands her LONG walks.
ex_chose
Aug. 17th, 2009 08:09 am (UTC)
Mina! :(
trillium_flower
Aug. 17th, 2009 09:34 am (UTC)
Arnica is a little better for muscle pain than lavender. I use joint max for my girl with mild hip dysplasia. The treats are convenient and I've found a bajillion uses for the buckets they come in. There's a lot of studies about the balance between calcium and phosphorous so you might try giving her a hunk of bannana or cooked sweet potato (if you feed things other than kibble). I make a mash of sweet potato, carrot, sardine, and spinach and freeze them in ice trays for treats once a week or so.

hope she feels better in the morning.
wirenth
Aug. 17th, 2009 10:59 am (UTC)
tell mina she is not allowed to get old.

someone else mentioned chiro, but i've also heard good things about acupuncture for this kind of thing.

i hope she's feeling better this morning. from what you wrote initially it makes me worry a little bit about it being a back thing.
bullymama
Aug. 17th, 2009 12:08 pm (UTC)
O gosh, Mina is totally not allowed to age! I have nothing but good things to say about accupunture for dogs. Hope she feels better very soon (and that you are holding up alright).
yesididit
Aug. 17th, 2009 02:15 pm (UTC)
sending good vibes to mina. i'm afraid to see puppy get old, time seems to go by so quickly.
rozae
Aug. 17th, 2009 08:25 pm (UTC)
I don't think I've dealt with anything near as bad as that. Myrl and Ajay required regular light exercise that you carefuly, slowly built up. Their arthritis got better then. Occasionally, one would over-do-it and we would give massages and in Ajay's case some light painkillers (I think it was advil? It's been a while).

tl;dr... I don't think that what I've successfully used would help Miss Mina.

I've heard a lot of good things about acupuncture and acupressure, the latter of which you can do yourself at home any time.

I hope this is a temporary setback in the glorious life of Mina, and that she is feeling much better very fast.
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